A language is traditionally understood as a set of rules that allows one individual to present information in a way that would enable it to be correctly interpreted by any other individual who knows this language.
Mykola, Language is a social phenomenon and everyone involved in language messages exchange acts on the basis of their own subjective experience.
The perception of linguistic messages is still a big problem for science.
The linguistic behavior of the reporter is not transmitted to the recipient, contrary to popular belief.
The receiving side, if it is a living organism, interprets changes at the inputs of the control organ, the brain, if we are talking about people, and forms its own behavior based on its own subjective experience.
Therefore, it remains not completely clear how the meaning of the messages is perceived.
Apparently, our subjective experience has much in common, which allows living beings to understand linguistic messages. Perhaps there are other, parallel channels needed to convey the meaning of the messages.
In any case, AGI systems must be subjective, not programmable, if they are to be designed as partially independent entities.
The complete independence of the AGI systems will lead to the disappearance of many living organisms, humanity in particular.
"Subjective" and "programmable" are not opposite concepts.
The difference in the amount of accumulated knowledge and subjectivity are also not the same thing. Subjectivity is a difference in the ASSESMENTS of the same things, which may take place with the same knowledge and the same interpretation of the text.
Mykola, subjectivity is the property of the subject to form his behavior on the basis of his subjective experience according to the rules independent of the task being performed. At the same time, sequences of elementary steps, leading to a specific goal, are selected from a built-in set of goals and formed in a universal decision space. The moment of achieving the goal also is determined uniformly for all possible goals. The choice of goals in subjective systems does not depend on the task being performed.
Therefore, subjective systems exhibit a much higher degree of universality than programmable systems.
This is the fundamental difference between subjective and programmable systems.
[1] Subjectivity is an effect rather a property, consequence of different experience.
[2] Most of goals can't be built-in because related to non-built-in things.
[3] Hard-coded algorithms can produce arbitrarily different behavior due to different experience (including different knowledge set), so behavior monitoring makes it impossible to determine if hard-coded algorithm is being used (especially when random search used).
[4] Hard-coded ("programmable") system may (and should) use subjective decisions.
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"subjectivity: the influence of personal beliefs or feelings, rather than facts"
[1] The same representation of the reality may led to different assessments of the situation (for example because different current needs)
[2] Decisions about what to do may be done without goal formulation, so AI system can be implemented without "embedded goals"
[4] Hard coded system can make anything because subject can be represented by DATA. For example routine for finding the minimum of a function can find the minimum of any function, and this function itself can be represented by data (function`s source code).
[5] Seems that you defines "programmable system" in very special way that restricts the capabilities of modern computer systems, and then follow these unnecessary restrictions
Mykola, Language is a social phenomenon and everyone involved in language messages exchange acts on the basis of their own subjective experience.
The perception of linguistic messages is still a big problem for science.
The linguistic behavior of the reporter is not transmitted to the recipient, contrary to popular belief.
The receiving side, if it is a living organism, interprets changes at the inputs of the control organ, the brain, if we are talking about people, and forms its own behavior based on its own subjective experience.
Therefore, it remains not completely clear how the meaning of the messages is perceived.
Apparently, our subjective experience has much in common, which allows living beings to understand linguistic messages. Perhaps there are other, parallel channels needed to convey the meaning of the messages.
In any case, AGI systems must be subjective, not programmable, if they are to be designed as partially independent entities.
The complete independence of the AGI systems will lead to the disappearance of many living organisms, humanity in particular.
"Subjective" and "programmable" are not opposite concepts.
The difference in the amount of accumulated knowledge and subjectivity are also not the same thing. Subjectivity is a difference in the ASSESMENTS of the same things, which may take place with the same knowledge and the same interpretation of the text.
Mykola, subjectivity is the property of the subject to form his behavior on the basis of his subjective experience according to the rules independent of the task being performed. At the same time, sequences of elementary steps, leading to a specific goal, are selected from a built-in set of goals and formed in a universal decision space. The moment of achieving the goal also is determined uniformly for all possible goals. The choice of goals in subjective systems does not depend on the task being performed.
Therefore, subjective systems exhibit a much higher degree of universality than programmable systems.
This is the fundamental difference between subjective and programmable systems.
A few notes:
[1] Subjectivity is an effect rather a property, consequence of different experience.
[2] Most of goals can't be built-in because related to non-built-in things.
[3] Hard-coded algorithms can produce arbitrarily different behavior due to different experience (including different knowledge set), so behavior monitoring makes it impossible to determine if hard-coded algorithm is being used (especially when random search used).
[4] Hard-coded ("programmable") system may (and should) use subjective decisions.
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"subjectivity: the influence of personal beliefs or feelings, rather than facts"
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/subjectivity
Michael Zeldich
just now
Mykola
1. Subjectivity is just a name for the relation between reality and its representation in that kind of system.
2. Goals, built into a subjective system are not connected with specific performed tasks.
3. Algorithms controlled behavior of subjective systems does not connect with performed tasks.
4 Hard-coded systems cannot have subjective decisions because they do not represent a subject.
5. Subjective systems do not have to resort to random search as it is for programmable systems.
I'm sorry, but these statements are incorrect.
[1] The same representation of the reality may led to different assessments of the situation (for example because different current needs)
[2] Decisions about what to do may be done without goal formulation, so AI system can be implemented without "embedded goals"
[4] Hard coded system can make anything because subject can be represented by DATA. For example routine for finding the minimum of a function can find the minimum of any function, and this function itself can be represented by data (function`s source code).
[5] Seems that you defines "programmable system" in very special way that restricts the capabilities of modern computer systems, and then follow these unnecessary restrictions